The space created by four columns is a tetrahedron in 3-dimensional space and all row variables are projected onto the column-space, meaning that all row variables are contained inside the tetrahedron. Similarly, if the data matrix has three columns, the space is a triangle in 2-dimensional space and all row vriables fall inside the triangle. To stretch the context to that of multiple correspndence analysis of n column variables and if all column variables have three categories each, then n triangles of n column variables span 2n-dimensional space with generally different oriientations, where Cramer's coefficient can be regarded as a projection of one triangle onto the space of the other triangle. I hope this might be of some use. Shizuhiko Nishisato "Classification, clustering, and phylogeny estimation" <[log in to unmask]> writes: >Dear All, > >I am doing a simple correspondence analysis on a contingency table having >more than 5000 lines (that are representing genes) and 4 columns. I am >then doing a clustering analysis on the coordinates of all genes on the >factorial axes. The results of the correspondence analysis are quite >surprising to me. The coordinates of all rows on the 3 axes are strictly >within a simplex that is a perfect tetrahedron. Of course, the >extremities of the tetrahedron are corresponding to the coordinates of >the column in the factorial space. How could such a structure be >obtained? > >I first thought that this was due to a specific structure in my original >dataset, so I’ve decided to do the analysis again on a randomly drawn >contingency table of the same size (each cell was drawn from a uniform >distribution between 0 and 100). I collected again such a triangle >structure. > >It thus seems that a simple correspondence analysis is always producing >such a triangular structure on a space with a small number of dimensions, >but I never heard about this before. I suspect that people are usually >not getting this because either they have more dimensions, or less rows >in the original table, leading to points that look to be spread on >factorial plans in a more homogeneous way. > >Any explanation on this will be welcomed! > >Eric >-- > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Eric Wajnberg > Chair of the ESF Scientific programme on > Behavioural Ecology of Insect Parasitoids (BEPAR) > Associated Professor at the UQAM > (Universite du Quebec a Montreal) > I.N.R.A. > 400 Route des Chappes, BP 167, > 06903 Sophia Antipolis Cedex, France > Tel: (33-0) 4.92.38.64.47 > Fax: (33-0) 4.92.38.65.57 > e-mail: [ mailto:[log in to unmask] ][log in to unmask] > Web page: [ http://www.sophia.inra.fr/perso/wajnberg/ >]http://www.sophia.inra.fr/perso/wajnberg/ > > Editor-in-Chief of BioControl, Published by Springer. > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > ---------------------------------------------- CLASS-L list. >Instructions: [ >http://www.classification-society.org/csna/lists.html#class-l >]http://www.classification-society.org/csna/lists.html#class-l _______________________________________________________________ Shizuhiko Nishisato, Professor Emeritus, OISE/University of Toronto Email: [log in to unmask] ---------------------------------------------- CLASS-L list. Instructions: http://www.classification-society.org/csna/lists.html#class-l