Interestingly, L. L. Thurstone used this issue (Thurstone, 1947) to illustrate the uses of Factor Analysis -- he introduced a data set that consisted of the intercorrelations of many different possible measures of the "size" of a set of cardboard boxes: e.g. volume, sum of edges, etc. Then he showed that you can extract factors from the data that can be related to box height, width, and depth. _______________________________________ James E. Corter Associate Professor of Statistics and Education Chair, Department of Human Development Teachers College, Columbia University 525 W. 120th St. New York, NY 10027 Email: [log in to unmask] Tel: (212) 678-3843 FAX: (212) 678-3837 >That choice is "unusual" because most workers do not use that method. One reason >is probably that one would not measure the size of a box by adding its length and >width - most would rather multiply them together. > >The problem with "size" is that simple word hides a large diversity of possible >measures. One cannot decide what is size without specifying some model and what >desired properties the measure of size is supposed to optimize. One should not use >some measure just because it seems "reasonable" intuitively. As I said previously, it >is fortunate that in most biological applications the various choices are usually highly >correlated. > >---------------------- >F. James Rohlf, Distinguished Professor & Graduate Program Director State >University of New York, Stony Brook, NY 11794-5245 >www: http://life.bio.sunysb.edu/ee/rohlf >