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 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: "Classification, clustering, and phylogeny estimation" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: size From: "Corter, James" <[log in to unmask]> Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 11:55:31 -0400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: "Classification, clustering, and phylogeny estimation" <[log in to unmask]> Parts/Attachments: text/plain (40 lines)
```Interestingly, L. L. Thurstone used this issue (Thurstone, 1947) to
illustrate the uses of Factor Analysis -- he introduced a data set that
consisted of the intercorrelations of many different possible measures
of the "size" of a set of cardboard boxes: e.g. volume, sum of edges,
etc.

Then he showed that you can extract factors from the data that can be
related to box height, width, and depth.

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>That choice is "unusual" because most workers do not use that method.
One reason >is probably that one would not measure the size of a box by
adding its length and >width - most would rather multiply them together.

>
>The problem with "size" is that simple word hides a large diversity of
possible >measures. One cannot decide what is size without specifying
some model and what >desired properties the measure of size is supposed
to optimize. One should not use >some measure just because it seems
"reasonable" intuitively. As I said previously, it >is fortunate that in
most biological applications the various choices are usually highly
>correlated.
>
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>F. James Rohlf, Distinguished Professor & Graduate Program Director
State >University of New York, Stony Brook, NY 11794-5245
>www: http://life.bio.sunysb.edu/ee/rohlf
>
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